Français / chargeur de mitrailleuse et PM

nchartier a écrit:Nationalité de l'armée : Française
Les règles de l'armée Française, stipule que le chargeur d'une LMG est prioritaire un soldat avec un PM ( = SMG), si il y en a un.
question ?
Le NCO équipé d'un PM est il concerné ?
NON
avis personnel : le NCO est mieux à faire que d'approvisionner en munition la LMG
Si le pourvoyeur n'est pas adjacent, à la LMG, peut il tirer avec son PM et laisser un fusil est le pourvoyeur en munition de la LMG pour le tir ?
NON
Pensez vous que l'achat de PM soit utile dans de telle circonstance d'usage ?
NON
Au vu du faible nombre de PM disponible, en juin 1940, je pense que ma question est plus du côté optimisation de liste que réalisme historique.

2) SMGs AVAILABILITY :
ALL the SMGs used by the French Army in May/June 1940 :
French origin :
• PM MAS M le 38 : 1,958 (19,500 ordered)
• PM STA M le 1924 : 1,000 (8,500 ordered)
• PM Petter M le 1939 : 50 (3,000 ordered)
• PM ETVS : 50 used from a total of about 100 produced
Foreign origin :
• MP 18-1 and MP 18-2 : very few
• MP 28-2 : 1,000 ordered for the police but not all delivered
• MP 34 : 200
• Erma-Vollmer MP : 3,250 but only 1,540 magazines available (only about 1,000 SMGs really used)
• Steyr : about 50
• Suomi M/31 : 300 available and 150 used on the front
• Thompson M 1921 (and perhaps M 1928) : 3,000 available but only several hundreds used in 1940

The PM MAS 35 is adopted as the PM MAS M le 1938 and in January 1940 19,500 SMGs are ordered but the first
batch is only delivered on 3 rd May 1940. Until 23 rd June 1940, only 1,958 MAS38 SMGs are delivered. The MAS38
was thus rare, with only individual weapons seeing service rather than systematic issue to particular unit types.
This SMG was later used by the Germans under the name MP 722(f).
The French army has also 300 Suomi M/31 SMGs and 150 of them are directed to the north-eastern front during
the 1939-1940 winter. In 1938 3,000 Thompson M le 1921 (and 30,000,000 .45ACP cartridges) are ordered to the
USA and they are all delivered by end 1939. They are nonetheless judged too heavy, bulky and too expensive.
Most of the 3,000 Thompson M le 1921 SMGs remained surprisingly in armories or were only tested in Morocco
during 1940. They were only issued occasional in May/June 1940 or delivered to military police units (e.g.
gendarmes that fought on the Loire River in June 1940). The Thompson SMGs were for example also used by the
Laffly W15T CC tank destroyer crews (126 SMGs issued to the 14 self-propelled anti-tank batteries) and apparently
by several AA units. They were more largely distributed among the Vichy French troops in 1941.
The EMP is the most common SMG used by the French Army in 1939-40. They actually were seized from Spanish
Republican troops at the end of the Spanish Civil War. 3250 MPE were counted but due to lack of magazines only
about 1,000 were issued. The most common place to find this weapon was with the Corps Francs.

lou_passejaire a écrit:les pistolets ne semblent pas avoir été un probléme ...
adapté aux besoins ? c'est une arme de dernier recours en défense, donc ...