Bon matin Vietnam

Salut les amis. Comme prévu, je vais passer commande de mes troupes Vietnam (US et viets). Quelqu'un aurait-il l’organisation des groupes de combat et sections côté américain? Armée, marines, forces spéciales, paras... Enfin, ce que vous avez.
Merci d'avance.
Jean

Salut Jean
Je vais faire un topic "doc vietnam" .Si tu as d'autres besoins n'hésites pas( j'ai une foule de doc sur le nam) ,je rajouterai dans le topic.
En attendant voila

Dans la même veine, si quelqu'un a l'organisation et l'armement des groupes de combats nord-vietnamiens et viet-congs.....c'est pour chasser les américains de Jean

NVA ( nord vietnamese army)

Infantry Battalion
  Bttn HQ: 5 AR/Carbine sqds, 0-2x Sa-7A
  3 Companies@
     CHQ: 1 (6 man) AR/Carbine sqd
     3 platoons@ 1(3man) PHQ sqd, 3(9 man) AR/Carbine sqds, 3 LMG or SAW, 3x RPG-2 or RPG-7
     1 platoon: 2x 60mm Type 31 mortars, 2 LMG
  1 MG Company:
     CHQ: 1(8 man) AR sqd
     3 platoons@ 3 MMG &/or 12.7mm Dshk AAHMG
  1 Mortar Company:
     CHQ: 1(6 man) AR/Carbine sqd
     3 platoons@ 3x 82mm M37 mortars, Obsolete FC
  1 A/T Platoon: 4x 57mm M18 or 75mm M20 or 82mm B10 or AT-3 Sagger

Divisional Armoured Cavalry Battalion (1969+)
  Bttn HQ: 2x BTR-60PA or BTR-152 or Chinese Type 531 APC
  1 Tank Company:
     CHQ: 1x Type 63 or PT-76 light tanks
     2-3 platoons@ 3x Type 63 or PT-76
  2 Scout/Transport Companies@
     CHQ: 1x BTR-60PA or BTR-152 or BTR-40 or Type 531
     3 platoons@ 2-3x APC as in CHQ
     1 AA Platoon: 2x BTR-40A/twin 14.5mm or 2x twin 14.5mm ZPU-2, 2 trucks

2. Regiment Support
  Infantry Regiment HQ: 10 Carbine/SMG/AR sqds with up to:
  1 AA Battery: 6x 12.7mm Dshk AAHMG, carts or pack mules
  1 Recce Company:
     CHQ: 1(5 man) AR sqd
     3 platoons@ 3(8 man) AR sqds, 1 LMG
     1 Security Platoon: 4 Carbine sqds
  1 Transport Company:
     CHQ: 100 porters, cycles, some Carbines
  1 Sapper Company:
     CHQ: 2 AR sqds, 1 flamegun
     3 platoons@ 3 AR/Carbine/engineer sqds, 3 LMG, 2x RPG-2
  1 Heavy Weapons Company:
     CHQ: 1(5 man) AR sqd
     1 battery: 6x 82mm B10 RCL
     1 battery: 6x 107mm B11 RCL
  1 Support Company:
     CHQ: 1 AR sqd, Assigned FC
     1 battery: 6x 82mm M37 mortars
     1 battery: 6x 75mm M20 RCL

3. Divisional Support
up to:
1 AA Battery: 6x 37mm M39 AA, horses
2 AA Batteries@ 6x 12.7mm AAHMG
1 A/T Battery: 8x 75mm M20 recoilless rifles
1 A/T Battery: 8x 82mm B10 recoilless rifles
1 A/T Battery: 8x 107mm B11 recoilless rifles
4 Engineer Companies@
  CHQ: 2(6 man) AR sqds, 1x 60mm Type 31, 1x 57mm M18, 1 flamegun
  3 platoons@ 3(6 man) AR/engineer sqds, 2x RPG-2, 2 LMG
1 Security Company:
  CHQ: 2(8 man) Carbine/SMG sqds
  3 platoons@ 3 Carbine/SMG sqds
0-3 Artillery Battalions@
  BHQ: 6 Carbine sqds, 8 lorries, Obsolete FC
  3 batteries@ 6x 85mm D44 or 76mm M42 or 122mm M38 or 6x 120mm M43 or 82mm M37 mortars; 8 trucks
0-1 Artillery Battalion:
  BHQ: 8 Carbine sqds, 8 lorries, Obsolete FC (1968+)
  3 batteries@ 6x 130mm M46 or 152mm D20, 8 lorries OR 6x BM-14-16 or BM-21-40
1 Recce Company:
  CHQ: 2(8 man) AR/SMG/Carbine sqds
  3 platoons@ 3 AR/Carbine sqds, 3 LMG

4. Notes
a) Radios are in all Bttn HQ and above. Field telephones down to CHQ.
b) Infantry have RKG-3M or RPG-43 A/T grenades, or Polish PGN-2 rifle A/T grenades.
c) The Division has 2-4 Regiments (usually 3) each of 2-3 Infantry Battalions.
d) Can use Corps and Army support from List VN4M during 1968-1975.
e) Can use Corps and Army support from List VN1M up to 1967.
f) In 1964 the NVA had 6 Infantry Divisions, 5 Infantry Brigades (List VN2M), and 10 Independent Infantry Regiments.
g) By 1967 there were 10 Infantry Divisions and 100 Independent Infantry Regiments.
h) By 1973 there were 23 Infantry Divisions, 4 Corps HQ, and numerous independent regiments.
i) NVA forces operating in Laos included 3 Infantry Divisions, 1 Armoured Regiment, and 9 Infantry Regiments by 1971-72.
j) Note in service dates: RPG-2 (early 1965); RPG-7 (1968); 82mm B10 (& B11) (1963); Sagger (1972); and Sa-7A (1971).
k) Divisional artillery used mortars when operating as guerrillas in South Vietnam.

Vietcong
Main Force Infantry Battalion
Bttn HQ: 6 AR/rifle/Carbine/SMG sqds
3 Companies@
CHQ: 1(4 man) rifle sqd
3 platoons@ 1(3man) PHQ sqd, 3(9 man) rifle sqds, 3 LMG or SAW, 0-3x RPG-2 or 3.5" M20
1 platoon: 2x 60mm Type 31 mortars, 2 LMG

1 MG Company:
CHQ: 1(8 man) rifle sqd
3 platoons@ 3 MMG &/or 12.7mm Dshk AAHMG

1 Mortar Company:
CHQ: 1(6 man) rifle sqd
2-3 platoons@ 3x 82mm M37 mortars, Obsolete FC

1 A/T Platoon: 4x 57mm M18 or 75mm M20 or 82mm B10

Local Force Infantry Battalion
Bttn HQ: 1(12 man) rifle/SMG sqds
3 Companies@
CHQ: 1(3 man) SMG sqd, 1(12 man) Carbine/recce sqd
3 platoons@ 1(3man) PHQ sqd, 3(9-12 man) rifle sqds
1 platoon: 3x 57mm M18 or RPG-2 or 1x 3.5" M20, 15 crewmen with rifles

1 Support Company:
CHQ: 1(3 man) pistol sqd
2 platoons@ 3 MMG
1 platoon: 3x 60mm Type 31 mortars

1 Recce Squad: 1(12 man) rifle/recce sqd
0-1 Sapper Squad: 1(5 man) rifle/engineer sqd

Divisional Sapper Battalion
Bttn HQ: 2 rifle sqds, 2x RPG-2, 2 LMG, 1x 60mm Type 31 mortar
3 Companies@
CHQ: 1(5 man) rifle sqd, 1x RPG-2
3 platoons@ 3(5 man) rifle/engineer sqds

2. Regiment Support
Infantry Regiment HQ: 6-8 Carbine/SMG/rifle sqds, telephones with up to:
1 Sapper/Recce Company:
CHQ: 1 rifle sqd, 1x RPG-2
3-5 platoons@ 3(5 man) rifle/engineer/recce sqds, 3 LMG
1 Transport Company: 100 porters, cycles
2 AA Batteries@ 6x 12.7mm AAHMG
2 Support Companies@
CHQ: 1 rifle sqd
1 platoon: 3x 75mm M20 RCL
1 battery: 3x 82mm M37 mortars, Obsolete FC
2 platoons@ 2-3 MMG
0-1 Attached Sapper Swimmer Company: 25-75 combat divers

3. Notes
a) No radios available.

Merveilleux! Merci beaucoup!!

Yakadmander quoi...

Ayant retrouvé toute ma gamme VN esci au 1/72 (boîte achetée en 1985...), je vais me montrer raisonnable et rester à cette échelle.
Ça sera d'autant plus facile pour me fournir en véhicules en tout genre...

C'est vrai qu'il y a pas mal de matos en 1/72 et quelques vendeurs de figs métal . Parce qu'en plastoc c'est limité quand même .
J'ai mis la doc ici
http://www.bolt-action.fr/t1824-documentation-nam

pour les marines us
c'est toujours 13 hommes pour le squad
1 sergent +3 fire team(fire team=4 hommes)

voila ce que j'avais trouver

US Army
Rifle Company inf
HQ (Captain, Lieutenant, 11 enlisted)
3 Rifle Platoons
HQ (Lieutenant, Platoon Sergeant, RTO)
3 Rifle Squads (Squad Leader, 2 Team Leaders, 5 Riflemen, 2 Grenadiers)
Weapons Squad (Squad Leader, 3 M60 gunners, 7 assistant gunners & ammo bearers)
Weapons Platoon (3 81mm mortars, 2 recoilless rifles)
Medics were assigned to the Battalion, with usually one medic then assigned to each platoon. Weapons platoons were essentially immobile without vehicles and thus assigned to base defense.

Air Cavalry Troop
HQ
Aero-Weapons Platoon ‘Red’, 11 AH-1G or UH-1B/C
Aero-Scout Platoon ‘White’, 10 OH-6
Aero-Rifle Platoon ‘Blue’
HQ (Captain, Platoon Sergeant, Medic, 2 RTO)
3 Squads (Squad Leader, 2 Team Leaders, RTO, 2 Grenadiers, 2 Riflemen, 2 M60 gunners, 2 assistant gunners)
Lift Platoon, 5 UH-1D/H

Armored Cavalry Troop
HQ (HQ M113, communication M113, 2 Radar M113)
3 Platoons
HQ (M113)
Scout Section (4 M113)
Infantry (M113, infantry squad of eight soldiers incl. 2 grenadiers and 1 M60)
Mortar (M106 or M125)
Tank section (3 M48)
If available, M113 ACAVs were used. The infantry squad was usually spread out amongst the troop.

US Marine Corps
Rifle Companymarines
HQ (Captain, Lieutenant, 7 enlisted)
3 Rifle Platoons
HQ (2nd Lieutenant, Platoon Sergeant, 2 Medics, RTO, Right Guide)
3 Rifle Squads (Squad Leader, Grenadier, 3 Fireteams consisting of Fireteam Leader, 2 Riflemen, Automatic Rifleman)
Weapons Platoon (3 81mm mortars, 6 AT weapons, 6 M60)
Marines used the M-14 instead of the M16 prior to 1968.
The Automatic Rifleman carried an M-14 with bipod, essentially a SAW. It was often retained even after the switch to the M-16.
AT and MG teams were usually distributed among the rifle platoons.

Merci pour tout.

Saint PattonX ... il a une liaison directe avec GADLU.
Pas besoin de prière spéciale

Tres utile, merci!

Pour l'US army, d'apres les veterans (qui sont aussi wargamers), c'etait du grand n'importe quoi: squad de 6 a 10 hommes, plutot moins que plus, M60 assignees a partir du "weapon squad", mais pas toujours.
En gros, 8h et pas toujours une M60.

Pour les Marines, presque toujours entre 10 et 14 quitte a voir que deux GdC dans le peloton.

En général, quand je fais une partie vietnam ( quelle que soit la règle) je fais lancer un D4-1 par joueur afin d'enlever autant de troupes pour simuler cette disparité entre les effectifs officiels et la réalité sur le terrain.